and he got eight of them to stay. >> okay. mr. wenger, housing, schooling? >> currently, a lot of growers will provide housing, they see that as an attractant to get workers. it is not required. schooling, if they have children, they go to the public schools. >> it's open to them? >> yes. >> mr. wicker of north carolina? >> i can only speak to our h-2a and the families won't travel with them. the state department doesn't offer them visas. >> what about workers for mr. wicker? >> schooling is available -- >> no, american workers working in your business. >> i mean, sometimes there's housing with it. but most -- >> american worker, u.s. people, working in -- i'm asking you do they work in your business? are they in the fields picking product? >> we have some that went through the legalization process in '86.